keep to snakes on a plane dude.. it was a one time phenomenon theres no need to start catalogueing all fan made content..

I think it’s a good idea, though maybe you should start a new website for it somewhere else. The thing is, there’s so much content out there, I doubt you’d be able to manage it all on your own. And you’d have to categorize it and stuff. It’s a neat idea for a project, and if you can generate the time and money to devote to it, I’d love to see it, but I don’t know if you’d be able to manage the sheer volume of content on your own.

I agree, this was a one time thing. Sure keep it up for updates and DVD and sequels. Maybe, A reunion every so often. This film will never live up to Rocky Horror, but the fan base is like it.
I would like to get together at conventions down the road. Imagine a 10 year reunion of snakes on a plane. I feel the same way about a sequel. This movie, dispite what it grosses is a part of motion picture history. In many regards this is our film. Hollywood makes the big gross off of it, but we the movie goers got to shine, our moment in the sun. People will be talking about this film in hollywood for years to come.

I don’t knock your idea about a site for fan films and other content that is good also. If it where me I would start the other site and leave this one up for the snakesonaplaniacs. We can talk about us and what is going on in our lives. It can be like an on going internet convention for us. You could choose fans from the site with knowledge to maintain it. Sure get sponsors make a couple dollars. You deserve it. But this wasn’t just about the film, Some of us made friends, relationships, bonded with our families over Sam Jackson and Snakes On A Plane.

I urge you make another site your great at it. But leave http://www.snakesonablog.com for us.

We are Snakesonaplaniacs

No matter what….nothing else will ever compare to Snakes on a Plane’s skyrocket from the internet.

I think regardless where you specifically take this, others will always try to re-create it.

One word to sum up this film: EPIC

I think it’s a great idea. Once the film has run it’s course, you should link snakesblog.com to a new generalised movie collections page with the original snakes material included on it. I personally love checking ou all the creative works out there and to have it on one website would be fantastic.

Oh and also, everyone, please read my predicament.

I will email you privately with some thoughts, but I want to share this. You caught lightning in a bottle, and it cannot be re-done. Leave Snakes on a Blog as a shrine, update it when people have new SOAP related stuff, and keep it for the inevitable sequel. You can expand it after the film comes out by cataloging reviews, box office performance, people’s re-actions, that kind of stuff. And I am telling you, we need to start a BIG movement for the people’s Choice Awards NOW. Remember, the PEOPLE vote for the best film, actors, etc and imagine if we can mobilize enough SOAPaholics to get our baby nominated and winner of best film, actor, etc etc.
THAT is what we should concentrate on NOW.

While I’m brand spanking new to this site, just heard of the movie a few weeks ago, from articles I’ve read about the uniqueness of this site and how it influenced what the movie became, I totally agree with those who say leave it be.

I think your idea though of a fan based clearinghouse is an extremely good one.My daughter would love it!
As would I.
But as Casey Cosker pointed out, that’s a HUGE undertaking!

Snakes in Europe, YEAH!!

Snakes in Europe you are brilliant!!

Snakes On A Plane Best Picture

i know this has already been said but to back it up a bit by quoting it to show that i’m also of the opinion:

“If it where me I would start the other site and leave this one up for the snakesonaplaniacs. ”

i think the peoples choice thing is a good idea too

Brian,
I’ll email you with my private comments but I think it’s an awesome idea! Keep up the good work!
Chris

Sounds like an intimidating project due to its galactic scale. If you feel you can do it, then do it. From what I’ve seen here, you have your “stuff” together and know how to keep things in order and keep it fan oriented. And that would be the key, keeping it fan oriented. A lot of these fan creations are for other fans to enjoy. Only the minority are trying to make a buck. I know Lucasfilm has lightened up a lot on their fan films and has even run their own fan film awards for the past few years. But that’s just film. There are so many other forms of media that can be tracked. Shirts, pictures (photoshopped and original), buttons, magnets, shoes, posters, whatever.

I guess my bottom line is this. Of everything I’ve seen you do here, you are qualified to handle this project. The question will be are you ready to take it on?

Hey Brian, I think you should turn to sites like http://www.halo.bungie.org or websites relating to Rocky Horror for direction. Halo.bungie.org is a website started by a video gamer who loved Halo. This site eventually became the top site for daily news on this subject. As there will probably be a sequel for Snakes on a Plane, this website should be kept up until this franchise dies.

I should also note that Halo.bungie.org also tries to host a substantial amount of fan-made, Halo-related content. Although a video game may be more to “work with” than a movie, SOAP isn’t just any movie. It’s Snakes on a Plane.

Hope you come to a good conclusion,

Dan

Brian,

I think if you want to get a fan created type site going your going to have to start small. Maybe start with a Samuel L Jackson site with fan gear from Pulp Fiction, The Incredibles, SOAP, Star Wars, Unbreakable etc.. and then see where that takes you. I think it would be an awesome idea to have it all in one place, it just seems like you would need quite the team to get it done.

I think the site should stay up only for more SOAP content. I mean, the craze isn’t going to end after the premier. You’ve got the DVD release. Then, you’ve got award cermonies like the MTV Movie Awards and such. (maybe not the Oscars). Also, you could leave the site up for a fanboard of some kind, talking about how much they enjoyed SoaP, what extras they want on the DVD.

Hell, who knows. We could even start a SoaP convention. We could get snake handlers, invite Sam Jackson, David, and the rest of the cast and crew, and hold a special screening of the movie every year on August 18th, which should be dubbed Snakes On A Day!! After al, if this movie is truly about the fans, then we should go nuts!

BTW, I bet 4 of my friends $20 that SOAP would break $100 mil on opening weekend! That’s how much I love this movie. Motherfucker!

This domain should just be for SoaP, that’s for sure. As for the rest…would it just be links to other content or actual copies of it? There are many links sites in existence, linking to art or fan fic sites. And you couldn’t copy people’s content without permission. Either way, there’s an unholy shitload of material out there. I’m a Harry Potter person myself, and I know that for all the sites I’ve seen, there are thousands and thousands more. Sites die out, new ones begin…

The SoaP phenomenon was organic, yes. But the internet is organic, too. Can it be captured and kept in a glass jar with holes punched in the lid? I’m not so sure it can.

First, I’d like to poopoo on all those people who say “leave the site up for us as a dedication to everything that happened blah blah blah”. How many people visit tribute websites that never get updated?

Second, I agree that it’s an ambitious project but obviously it’s one you could undertake and make a success. I think it could be awesome. A http://www.fanmade.com (or whatever you’d name it) as a centralized source would be amazing. I’d think many people across the web and some in the industry would take notice. It’s pretty forward thinking and I congratulate you taking the step. It’s very cool Brian.

Last, I think the push for The Peoples Choice award would be AWESOME and let’s not forget the MTV award that Samuel L predicted. I think the format for this website should stay primarily SOAP for a while. Perhaps since you feel there will be less content, you can chose 1 or 2 days a week to update kinda like The Onion updates on Wednesdays.

Whatever you chose to do I think it’ll be cool and I just wanna thank you on behalf of all the fans.

Good Luck!

Well Brian ( and everyone else who commented here ) , you have some good ideas for the future.

However, I feel that SoaB should be kept for only SoaP after the film has come out. After all, like the others said, we’ve got the DVD and awards to look foward to as well and there will always be people making SoaP fan works out there and they will need a home. ( I myself am planning one related to Starfox )

However, you should still press on with the idea of a website for fan made stuff from all films and other media ( maybe not fangames so much, they are already fairly covered but you can link to them, I know some good Mario Fan Sites & Sonic Fan Site s ) I won’t mind ads, of course and I’m sure there are plenty of people here who’d be willing to help.

As for an annual SoaP convention, hell ya! Thats a great idea! I’d be fully behind that as well. The whole magic that has surround SoaP was a once in a blue event, it probably won’t be repeated for a long time!

Likewise with what AnyankaBunnyfea, thank you for giving us such a great website, you deserve everything you got from it!

btw, my e - mail is: nhy@campus.ie

I think its a great idea… but start smaller and with a separte website.

get’er done!!

I think it would be a fantastic idea if it’s done right, but I agree, keep this website separate. I just hope that the studio heads don’t end up using the website to track fans and slap a lawsuit on them (and you fo rthat matter) or studio heads trying to shut you down altogether. Because I think something like this would really catch on. Drawings, film shorts, you name it…all of that fan-goodness on one site? I’m game, can’t wait to see how it turns out. Anyways, thankx 4 listening 2 my 2 cents.

OH MY GOD….Snakes on a Day Convention! I love it! hahaha.

you’ve opened a can of snakes here. it up to you whether you want to keep up with it. i think it would be a brilliant undertaking though. we’ve entered a new era of moviemaking and some official documentation of it can only be invaluable to future film historians.

Snakesonablog needs to stay separate and stay viable for as long as the SoaP phenomenon keeps on slithering. (And I don’t foresee it going away anytime soon.)

I agree with AnyankaBunnyfear that something like fanmade.com would be a great idea, just so long as it stays true to its ideals. With the success of SoaP, it just seems inevitable that some corporation or studio is going to try and generate buzz for a project by trumping up its own ‘fan-created’ viral marketing. If the new project can weed that out, then I’m all for it.

Oh, and Snakes on a Day is the best idea ever.

I think you can probably tweak this site and guide it into a convention-based page - imagine a SoaPcon every year!

Truth is, most of the crew who hopped on this train share common traits, and common loves - I’d be willing to bet at least 70% of them wouldn’t need their arm twisted to go to some sort of geek-mecca-con (and I mean that in the kindest way - I heart geeks!).

Would be a shame to let this site die.

-Fox

Such an all-encompassing portal would have to be a collaborative project: think Wikipedia. Mind you, it’s a good idea — even if a business model would still be needed. In the mean time, enjoy what you have already accomplished! It looks like SoaP will continue to keep you busy for a while. (Heck, some of the stuff from your blog should go ON the dvd!)

This is the first time I’ve commented here. Been coming since March. I’ve been on the Snake-wagon since January. Nearly half my office is taking the Friday afternoon off to go see SOAP because I’ve been talking about it for 8 months. So, while I know I’m not the biggest fan here, I’m way pumped to see the movie.

However, I don’t know if this can be extended on a wide scale. When I first saw the Snakes shirts, pins, hats, etc. I figured it was only going to last a little while before the studio sic-ed their lawyers on everybody and shut it all down. Fortunately, the two smartest things New Line did was to not change the movie name and allow the fan frenzy (and some profiteering) to keep going.

I don’t think that many other studios are going to allow that. My guess is that New Line never had (nor anticipated) a lot of licensing deals set up for Snakes, so the fan enterprise didn’t cost them anything. But if you are selling the rights to Happy Meal toys to McDonald’s for big bucks (wouldn’t Snakes on a Plane Happy Meal toys have been awesome?), you dillute the value of those deals by allowing outsiders to play on it.

Obviously, the studios are watching though, so you will see some of them allow, encourage, and try to manufacture this kind of thing. I think it will be the SoaP kind of movie that isn’t going to be selling action figures anyway that will allow it. It would be a complicated legal task to figure out which movies would allow it. Perhaps you just do it until you get the “cease and desist” letter, then pull the plug on a movie-by-movie basis.

The key is in the bottom line. If the movie has all this buzz, but doesn’t open huge and make big money, the whole phenomenon will be dismissed as all smoke and no fire. So keep spreading the word.

Even though I’ve listed some of the negatives, I still say give it a shot Brian. Honestly, you probably can’t even begin to calculate the amount of money that you’ve made for this movie. You ought to figure out a way to make that work out for you.

Good Luck to you

Though it would be interesting to have an “all-inclusive” catalogue of fan inspired spin offs, I don’t think that snakesonablog.com is the proper place to do it. Since the beginning, SoaB has solely existed to promote one thing and has become insanely popular by doing so. To allow other, unrelated content into the site would destroy the integrity of what you have created and probably cause it to be forgotten.

Besides, cataloguing :every: piece of fandom would require a tremendous amount of time, server space, and money. Plus, like Spencer said, licensing is gonig to be tough.

If you :do: decide that you want to catalogue everything though, my suggestion would be to start another web page.

Thanks for allowing your fans to have input!
That is very Snakes on a Plane =P.

-Schep

P.S.: An annual SoaPcon would rock!

Ive been coming to this site for about 6 months and it truly is the site that made me a snakesonaplaniac. youv’e done so much for this movie it ridiculous. but honestly i think this site should be forever http://www.snakesonablog.com. thats what it was meant to be. but don’t give up on the fanmade.com thing either. just leave snakesonablog the way it is. this SoaP phenomenon won’t be leaving for a while.

As you yourself stated, Snakes on a Blog was created with the single purpose of getting you to the premiere. It worked. Of course, I don’t think the fan material will end as of 10 pm Thursday. There will be reviews from fans and critics, more merchandise, more fan art, talk of the DVD, and so on.

Look how long Star Wars lasted. And Star Trek. And LOTR. Of course, they have far more intricate plots than SoaP does, but I wonder all the same…SoaP could have staying power.

I DEMAND to attend SoaPCON 2007.

I am Jakob’s (The 8 year old snake fan) dad. I need a little help. The day before the show I won tickets on the myspace snake site for 2. New Line Cinema could not fly us out to Hollywood from Florida. Is there anyone that can help us. The tickets are waiting on us we just got to get there. I’m sorry to put this here but I need snakesonaplaniacs to see it. I have called radio and tv stations and myspaced people, we have called New Line several times. We have failed in every effort. I am trying to get an 8 year old boy to see Hollywood and I have 100 to my name. Please help. I even thought after trying, I can give them to someone so I contacted Reba Mac. New Line says they are not transferable. Please help Freq. flier miles, freebee hotels anything.

here is my email address cinezombi@aol.com

I think an all-encompassing site would be good, because if this movie is even remotely successful, there will be many imitators, but I have to agree with some of the others that it probably shouldn’t be here. Use this place as a jumping-off point, but leave the actual Snakesonablog.com as a site for SoaP stuff. The site for all fan stuff should probably be named something a little more neutral anyhow.

In the end it is your decision. If it were in my hands, I would keep this page to just SoaP. The other idea is interesting, but I just do not think it should be on snakesonablog.

I agree with all the rest. SoaB is for SoaP. That sounds like a great idea, Brian, but only if it were a seperate site. Like you said, Snakes on a Plane could never be recreated, but SoaP fans are much different than Harry Potter fans (for one, they’re much cooler. High five!) and the two film’s growth in popularity could not even be compared to one another. I was reading an article in Wired a little while ago, that was talking about the “Death of The Hit”, about how the internet has changed the way popculture is distributed, how film companies no longer decide what becomes a Blockbuster hit, how now the fans decide. Snakes on a Plane is that kind of hit. Harry Potter, Star Wars, all of those are from an entirely different era. This is the Snakes on a Plane era. If you start another project, you know we’ll support it, but please leave SoaB the way it is, Brian.

That would be awesome if you could get those tickets to Reba Mac, she’s been begging.

To the matter at hand, I happen to think you are sitting on a goldmine of an idea. Yes, SoaP can not be recreated, but what you’re describing is not cataloguing every movie that makes a SoaP type viral impact, but rather every movie that has dedicated fans.

The problem is, ARE there enough fans with this type of dedication on enough films to make this “master” site’s content interesting? I’m of the opinion that there isn’t, but maybe that’s because no such venue exists with the purpose of cataloguing their exploits yet. So perhaps it’s like YouTube, and “if you build it, they will come.”

You’ll need funding, you’ll need a staff. Because eventually you’ll want to expand into TV shows that generate that kind of exitement (24, Lost, ect.), and become and all-encompassing fan archive. One man can’t do it. Two men can’t do it. You have to think YouTube, IMDB, and all these huge sites that have become staples of the Internet, creating new verbs in our vocabulary (ie., “I ‘YouTubed’ that video”).

I certainly wouldn’t discourage you from attempting to undertake such a task. And if you do, you’ve built up enough stock from SoaB that you have the platform to launch it and get the word out.

I do agree that SoaB should remain untainted, however.

I’ve been visting this site since something like February, and it’s by far one of my favorite sites on the internet. I don’t comment a lot, but I do very much enjoy the atmosphere you’ve created Brian.

I think having a http://www.FanMade.com-esque site is genius. Yes, it is a lot of work. No, it’s not a one-man project. But it’s something that totally could work. Pulling people together is one of the great things about fandom, and a site that catalogued everything. Damn…. I LOVE it.

I agree, start small, work your way up. Build an infrastructure that works, before worrying about finding everything. Leave SoaB as is (link off it.) It won’t be easy, but no great thing ever is. (Just don’t use it to become a patsy for the man. I don’t think you ever would, but the fan-nature of the site is something brilliant that FanMade shouldn’t lose.)

You rock. I agree, you have made New Line millions. I’m really glad that they are taking you to the premiere. It’s the least they can do. ;)

Hello B,

Great site! I bought my first fanmade T-Shirt EVER from a link on this site. Wife loves it. Now, a small analysis of the idea + other comments: You liked how “viral” this phenomenon became (I prefer bacterial, even if it sounds grosser; no host cell death required). Plus, many commenters want SoaB to “stay the same”. Add that up, and I don’t think a “centralized” site would work, let alone feel the same, for anything else, incl. other films.

I think you need to set up the websites movie by movie. Community feels smaller, closer that way; part of “something”. I would never feel part of something that was a sublink from http://www.fanmade.com or whatever.

Centralize your office, your ideas, your watercoolers, etc. But I’d keep the websites separate. Link them if you have to, but get diff. domains. Nothing worse than a fan of SoaP (Steely Dan, perhaps?) finding out that “You, Me & Dupree” are on the same site. Whereas those who like both movies can visit both sites.

Hey it’s me;

Do what you feel is right man.
We’ll support whatever you do.

I must admit snakesonablog is one of the most entertaining websites i frequent, and i make it my business to read it on a tri-daily basis minimum. It would be disapointing if after the big day (tomorrow) this website just became dead and buried, a catalogue site if you will. So i for one would love to see an equally entertaing but all encompassing website. True, snakesonablog should remain snakesonablog. But with a different URL, but the same sense of achievement and fun, Id be well up for following a bigger, more ambitious endeavour.

I mean, seriously. This movie is the next big cult phenom, as I knew it would be. I think we here at SoaB are proof of that. This site should defintetely stay up for just SoaP info. As someone said, we HAVE to read the critics reviews of it, whether good or bad. If they’re bad, it doesn’t matter cause at least we stilled enjoyed it. If they’re good, they get props! Plus the MTV Award, and lets not forget that this movie will have Quotes that all us SoaPlaniacs will remember FOREVER!

Oh, and I’m really glad everyone liked the Snakes On A Day idea! I think it can, nay SHOULD be done! I’m sure we could get New Line to even sponsor the idea, and assemble the cast and crew! Motherfucker!

do it. it’s a great idea.

Brian, if you do make a new site, call it “The FanBase”! Just came up with it!

Brian,
I too will email you with my thoughts. Marketing is everything.

Stik

Throw videogames in there too and I’m sold. I’m pretty sure gamers make much more fan crap than movie or TV fans. Ever been to newgrounds.com?

I read your post about what you want to do with the site once all the SoaP hype has died down. I like the idea in premise and support you all the way to go ahead and do it, but with one recommendation: include fan-made crap from fans of videogames as well.

I’m confident you’ll find several times as much flash parodies, fan fiction, art and whatnot from rabid gaming fanboys as you would from TV and movies. Sadly, that’s only a slight exaggeration. Because the thing is, people who like a certain game series tend to really love that game series. Ever been to newgrounds.com?

Exactly. And just hoe much do game fans love Final Fantasy VII? Enough to fill several sites, I would bet.

They make fan art:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25458112/

They make flash movies:
http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/169933

They even make full, custom-mad costumes based on what the characters are wearing in the game:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII-Advent-Sephiroth-costume-cosplay_W0QQitemZ180018070940QQihZ008QQcategoryZ86207QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Getting the picture? And that’s just one game. So please consider including videogames as apart of the criteria you cover in the new Snakes on a Blog. I’m sure you’ll never be at a loss of material if you do. Remember: People who like movies and people like Television, but only games have fanboys.

Thanks for your time,
Josh Taub (thegreybear)

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Nice to hear! I’m looking forward to reading any future updates on this idea of yours in the future. I may email you soon with my ‘more detailed’ thoughts on this whole thing.

Here’s my pitch for the sequel:

So at the very end of the movie, right after Samuel muther fuckin’ L Jackson says his now infamous line “Im sick and tired of these muther fuckin’ snakes on this muther fuckin’ plane” he shoots out two windows on the plane. And voila, all the snakes get sucked out into the open air.

Now what Im about to suggest is pretty preposterous, about as preposterous as a bunch of angry snakes on crack on a plane, so we are just about par for this pitch.

What if, what IF, all the snakes that got sucked out of the plane were close enough to the ocean to survive the fall, and (here is where it gets iffy) they all land on a small cruise liner headed for Hawaii. The giant boa with fangs can crash through the navigation deck or whatever and take out all the instruments and steering apparatuses. And then smaller snakes can start landing on the emergency life rafts and hiding in them for when the mass panic occurs they pretty much ensure the life rafts fall into the ocean. Snakes can land on sunbathers and in the small jacuzzi/pool.

Chaos ensues.

The only thing it would be missing was Samuel muther fuckin’ L Jackson in there. But we would have to get some equally awesome guy in there, say Bruce “the chin” Campbell. Add some good one-liners in there, some sort of imminent peril if they dont stop the boat, a nice hot chick (or three) to look at, some steamy B-movie quality sex scenes. And, as Emeril would say, BAM, you have the movie “SNAKES FROM A PLANE”

~Kiyoshi

I think we should just all get ready for a sequel “Naked lesbians on a plane with soem snakes”

I believe this can be done again - but for anything - not just movies. It could be books, people, towns, product…. Start a PR company, sell it in three years and retire.

Anyway if you do the content thing it wouldn’t need to be just fan content - why not all content?

snakes on capitalism

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Keep it going. I say this site should be devoted to SoaP sequel ideas. If we keep it up, who knows? Something might happen…

It’s no good asking people what they think in advance about something that doesn’t exist yet … they’ll try to shoot you down. Just develop an idea that you are really excited about and don’t tell anybody about it, just show us when it’s done. Then you won’t have your energy sucked dry by a bunch of boring people with all sorts of useless opinions about something that can’t yet be evaluated intelligently.